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Support for Scale Computing Hypercore. My name is Allie Prestia, I'm the Lions Marketing Manager here at Scale Computing and today we're going to hear from Cody Ault, Staff Solutions Architect for Veeam, Matt McPhail, Senior Technical Marketing Manager from Scale Computing, and our friends Peyton and Josh from Ingram Micro. Cody, over to you. Hey, so, yeah, I kind of wanted to talk about like what's changed in, you know, the virtualization ecosystem like, you know, about two years ago, you know, Broadcom started its acquisition of VMware and, you know, since then, we've, you know, there was lots of energy in the market that's been trying to figure out like, okay, do we need to start looking at other solutions and people start asking us about alternatives and what, you know, what else they might want to consider and what we have integrations with and we've had an influx of potential partners come in, Scale Computing being one of the first ones that I talked to and advocated for the most. If you go to the next screen, you know, one of the things that I think stayed the same even though VMware is kind of maybe not the pillar that it was is that customers are still, they still have to take into consideration that they have an organization to run, they still need, you know, a trusted platform and that cybersecurity events are still, you know, going away and they need to be able to have the same kind of capabilities that they have with whatever vendor they start looking into to make sure that they are able to recover, that they have a plan and that they are secure and, you know, that's why we're here today. So, and that's kind of what we are looking to provide to people. So, if you go ahead. I think Veeam kind of, due to the way that we got founded and kind of our first, you know, marketing and first like integrations were, you know, related to VMware backups, we kind of are synonymous with VMware backups, but, you know, we've been working on lots of other things for quite a while. So, you know, in the last five or six years, I think I've seen us like push really hard into the cybersecurity space, cyber resilience space, focusing on integrations with like cloud storage and immutability and on-premises hardware immutability and being able to take data from one platform to another platform and that's first in mind when we consider adding additional platforms too. So, if you want to click next, you know, we kind of see ourselves as this, you know, data platform and at the bottom we have all the integrations that we look at protecting. So whether that's cloud workloads and Kubernetes and cloud native backups or object storage backup, physical servers, applications, SaaS platforms, you know, we're still investing in a bunch of those things, but I think the area that I've seen the most change and the most growth in is the virtualization space. And then above that, like with our capabilities, we also want to remember that we're also adding monitoring and analytics and recovery orchestration and other capabilities on top of the platforms that we're protecting. So, if you go next, you know, this slide's probably just going to keep getting busier and busier as people look at additional workloads that they want to protect, but, you know, I think when people think about, you know, running virtual machines anymore, like, you know, before it was, you know, VMware and maybe Hyper-V or Nutanix, but, you know, the cloud is definitely a place that people are wanting to go. We've seen, you know, requests for, you know, other platforms, but scale's the one that I think I've worked with the most in the last year, especially in the last six months when, as we started, you know, investing or working on this platform, so, and we wanted to make sure that it was as integrated as anybody else on this page, and, you know, we're continuing to add capabilities there. So, if you go next, I have kind of a breakdown of some of the platforms that, you know, from a history of integration. So, shortly after we started, you know, for the first several years, we were VMware only, but then we added support for Hyper-V. It seemed to be a pretty common one, you know, back in the really early 2010s, and then throughout that time between Hyper-V and Nutanix, there was always questions like, what about KVM? What about Linux-based hypervisors? So, you know, the market's always been interested in it, and now we're seeing to see a major uptick in there, and you can see in the last few years, we've started things like adding Red Hat virtualization and adding Kubernetes workloads and adding Proxmox, and now we're adding scale support, so, but I do want to stress that regardless of what platform customers are looking to move to, we want to make sure that you have that capability to go from VMware to what's next. So, if you're backing up VMware today and you are looking at using scale moving forwards, we want to be able to provide you that freedom to be able to move between platforms without changing your licensing, without changing your capabilities, without losing access to your backups or, you know, changing your vendor to, you know, have the same level of reliance in the cybersecurity space. So, we do kind of, we do have a universal license, so if a virtual machine's protected in one place and then you recover it somewhere else, you can start backing it up on that new platform, you know, without changing your license, so, and just follows the workload wherever you go. You can click next. So, you know, I think one of the directives that my alliances team is focusing on is that breadth of choice and trying to make sure that we support everybody, and, you know, the market's been pretty clear that, you know, scale is one of those platforms that we need to support and that people are interested in using, you know, that checks those boxes for reliability and ease of use and, you know, it's not somebody trying to go to online forums and figuring out how to, like, build their own hypervisor using open source, completely open source, no support kind of capabilities, like, scale is, you know, turnkey, it works, it's real easy to set up and that's what customers are looking for and that's what we want to be able to provide to people with Veeam as well, like, you know, it just works, so, if you go next, and as I mentioned before, you know, we try to make sure that when customers are looking at changing platforms, we can facilitate that for them, so, if they're backing up today, they can be Veeam customers tomorrow when they start looking at other platforms, regardless of what happens in the market. And, you know, we kind of have the same opinion when it comes to where you store your data as well, so, like, whether you want to store it on-prem or you want to move to the cloud or you want to keep data wherever, we don't try to lock you in, we don't charge extra for wherever you want to keep your data, so, when your workload moves, we move with you and if you change where you want to store data and you want to continue to make sure things are immutable, we try to make sure that that's facilitated as best as possible, too, so. One of the things that I have noticed in some of our latest generation of integrations with KVM solutions and other hypervisors, when we first started down this path several years ago with Nutanix, we had to deploy kind of a separate backup server, like, on the platform of that, that we were integrating with, and it had its own interface and you would have to schedule jobs and it felt very disconnected from the data platform and with scale computing, you know, we built that directly into backup and replication, so that service runs, that integration runs directly on the backup server through our platform services capabilities and, you know, the plugin runs on VBR and it, you still deploy a worker, that worker runs and can connect directly to the hypervisors, it kind of stays in, you know, has direct access to the storage and it can write to whatever repository you want to use and including immutable repositories to make sure your data is protected and safe from encryption or ransomware. And then I'll hand it over to Matt. Thank you, Cody. Specifically, Cody gave you the good stuff. Everything that you wanted to know about the integration and about Veeam, that's exactly why we're all here, right? Specifically. So, what I want to do is I want to talk about exactly how it works. So, to set the table, just got a couple slides I wanted to talk through. Obviously, who we are, we are a channel first company, that is obvious, since this is a channel only webinar. We run applications in a 99% uptime, we run heavily on operational efficiency, around 50%, and then we've got an overall cost less than 70%. And we're deployed around the world in huge industries, in retail, in banking, in commerce, in food service, all different types. And we work at the very, very smallest level, all the way up to the very largest level. And you may or may not have heard, but recently, we are acquired. Now, I can tell you this, honestly, this is not going to be a Broadcom type acquisition. This is an expansion of what we're going to be able to do. So, while we're going to focus on the left-hand side and HyperCore today, there's going to be other things that you're going to get information about, as we're able to integrate between some of these different product lines, that is going to be really key for your customers. So, stay tuned on that. And Cody showed this already. I don't want you to miss this, because this is what my entire demo is around. This is exactly what he explained. So, pay close attention to how this is working, as I'm going through it. Because I'm not only going to be talking about that, but I'm going to be showing specific restore features. And you can see here that all of these different hypervisors, file and block, cloud and object, can restore back directly to us. This becomes a really interesting and key migration point. And it's really simple. So, without further ado, let's jump into it. I'm going to share my screen. And specifically, what you're going to see is a macro view. And then I'm going to go down into a micro view. So, what you're able to see right now is, you're actually able to see Fleet Manager. Fleet Manager, for those of you that don't know, is our multi-cluster management interface. It can go up to thousands of clusters. It works great. And it allows you to see all the way at a huge dashboard level, and everything that's happening, down to a specific VM and node level. And you can control users here. What I'm going to do, I'm just going to go to one of my clusters. Specifically, this is a cluster that is actually located right next to me, right over there. I'm going to jump over here, and I'm going to I'm going to jump in to Patio, and I'm going to just go to the cluster here. Now, I don't have to. You can see here, you can see the storage, the memory, the CPU, what version it's on. You can manage everything right here. I'm going to jump in and show you exactly. Now, what it's doing, Fleet Manager is not using any type of firewall. It's not using any type of VPN interface. It is doing a secure connection via SSL and SSH over to the cluster. Fleet Manager is located in GCP. My cluster is located next to me. And with this secure connection, it's actually able to go directly into that tunnel. So I'm going to try that one more time. And with that, what you're able to do is you're able to set up a secure connection anywhere in the world without any extra type of interface or hardware in order for it to be able to be done. And of course, with demo rules state that something must fail in every single demo. So I'm just going to go directly to the interface. You can see here, the interface is a three-node cluster. Specifically, within that three-node cluster, you can see I've got a number of different VMs running. If I needed to create a new VM, it's as easy as clicking on plus, and you've got a single screen for being able to create that VM. But I've already got some already created. I've got a Hyper-V VM with a VM installed right there. I've got a Samba mount. I've got a Linux server. But where I want to focus today is on that Veeam server. What I'm able to do is I'm able to go to that directly. I can see exactly what's happening within the Veeam server. I can see everything that's been applied to it here within the interface. And I can also set up any type of failover if I needed to as well. But let's actually just go straight into the console. Console goes through a no VNC type of scenario, and I'm directly into the VM that is running Veeam. You can see here's my complete interface and ready to go. So first things first, I don't see any scale servers here. I need to add a scale server. So let's go in. We're going to go and specifically add a server that's associated with that. And what we're going to do is go into a specific virtualization platform. You scroll down and it looks like, oh, scale's grayed out. No, it's actually not. You just got to scroll down a little bit. Click on that. I'm going to put in a DNS name, a specific IP for another server that you did not see that I'll take you to in just a little bit. Click next. Put in credentials. Now, Veeam's great about credentials. I actually already have my credentials saved, so I can just put them in and click apply, and it's already there. It goes through, sees the security SSL connection. It allows for a untrusted cert. It clicks there. It absolutely gets everything done. Click next. Finished. That's it. That's as hard as it is to set up a scale cluster on Veeam. Now, there's one thing that Cody mentioned that is very, very key, and that's that WorkerVM. So what I want to do is I do want to create a WorkerVM because that WorkerVM does everything. It connects directly to our API. It actually goes through and mounts the backups. It mounts any restores and actually makes sure that everything is being done appropriately within the interface. So I'm clicking on that virtual machine. I'm giving it a name for that WorkerVM. I'm telling it what VLAN it needs to sit on, and then I'm done. Now, it goes through. I want it to test just because that is something that is always necessary when you're going through and doing this. So it goes. It starts setting up that test WorkerVM. It goes through and deploys that WorkerVM. It takes a couple minutes, and it's really, really straightforward. Now, while this is happening, I'm going to go back into Fleet Manager. So Fleet Manager, you saw, had my three-node cluster, McPhail Patio, and then I've got a DR cluster here. Well, my DR cluster is actually that address that I just put into Veeam in order to handle backups. So I'm going to click Go to Cluster. We'll see if Secure Connection works this time. If it doesn't, I'm just going to go directly to it anyways. So, and it worked. Excellent. And you see here that SC Worker is being tested. It's on. It's running. It's going through anything that is set up from a Veeam status perspective. You can see here it is created by the administrator on that Veeam server. And, oh, it just powered down. So I can actually go back and see that, yep, powering on, powering off, testing configuration. And I'm back there. Everything is good. Now, you can see here I've also got a target. Well, I want this target to be live. So I'm going to click Clone. And you can see that it went through. And with just a couple seconds, it took on the scale cluster a clone that was 16 gigs and made it available within three seconds. So I'm going to power that on. And then once it's powered on, I'm going to go back into my Veeam console. The worker is still going through its checks, you can see there. And when this is powered on, you can see that it is ready to go. Now, this is a full Windows server. I'm not doing anything fancy here. It's just a 2022 server that's just powering up right there. So now back here, you can see it's got an IP address. Everything else is ready to go. I'm going to go in and start a backup job. So I'm going to go back to home. I'm going to create a virtual machine backup job. I'm going to have that go directly from us, scale computing. This is going to be backup job three, you can name it whatever you want. And then I'm going to add in that virtual machine that I just powered on. So under 213, you can see that there's a powered on Veeam target. Click there, click Next. I can manage the storage. I got a default repository of my C drive on the Veeam server. I don't want that. I want a bigger backup. So I've got a terabyte that's ready. Retention size, you can keep backups. Now, here's what's really cool. For those of you that are curious about the functionality that Veeam built in as far as integrating with scale, you can see it all right here. Create synthetic folds, create full backups periodically, maintenance, perform health checks and auto heal corruptions. You can go into specific storage and do a compression and storage optimization layers. And you can put in full notifications as all of this goes through. I'm going to keep this simple. I'm going to just click Next. And then I could also set up an automatic job here directly with retries. Click OK. Goes through, creates the backup job. Key thing here, I want it to run. Click Finish. That backup job's running. And you can see that it's going through that specific environment. Backup job there. If you needed to, you haven't been in the Veeam interface that much, you can go in, check the statistics of exactly what's going on. And you click that show details, you'll see more information too. Exactly. Thank you, Cody. Now, what about a restore? What about a restore? So I mentioned earlier, I've got a Hyper-V setup as well. So let's go through and leverage that Hyper-V setup for a restore. I'm going to go into backup infrastructure. You can see those hosts along with Hyper-V. And so I'm going to go back into home. You can see I've got that backup job. I've got replication and CDP. Sure, backup, that's part of this as well. But I'm going to click on restore. And I'm going to restore from Hyper-V. Now, part of this is a cooking show. So I already did a Hyper-V backup prior to us getting together on this webinar. So I'm going to restore from that backup. I can do an entire Veeam restore. And I'm going to do an entire Veeam restore here as well. Now, I'm going to click on name and click on backup. Actually, I'm going to exit out of this. Let's do this one more time. Cody, I think it's letting me go through. There's a couple different ways. There's like five different ways you can perform a recovery in Veeam. But if you go back to your home screen over there, and then expand your backups over to the left. And yeah, click the dropdown for that. There you go. So if you right click on that VM, you'll see all the options that you have there. So there's recover to the cloud, recover to you know, instant recovery. If you were going back to Hyper-V, restore to scale computing is right there. Just like y'all are learning on this webinar, I'm learning on this webinar too. So I'm going to restore this entire VM to Hyper-Core. Yep. So you can see it already chose Hyper-V. Click next. I'm going to go into a specific restore mode, which is just that it's going to a new location. I am moving this from Hyper-V and I'm moving this into Hyper-Core scale. It's already got that selected target cluster. Although I could go in and I could choose a different cluster if I wanted to. If you were backing up from multiple different scale clusters, you could be able to do this. I'm going to click next. You can see there, it's just going to be the same name. You can change it if you want to. And then the network is going to be exactly the same. Go back. You have to tell it what network you want it on. Otherwise it'll boot up not connected. Yeah. So when I was going through this as a test, it wasn't giving me. So yeah, normally that is the case. You want to tell it what to get it. But again, I was trying to jump through. It could be something with the source machine too. Probably. Migration from Hyper-V. You can see there. Click next. Power on. Click finish. And it's done. So it goes through the restore session and it actually goes through and finds the backup and pulls directly from there. Now, what I'm not going to do is I'm not going to make you all wait for five minutes while this does a restore, but I can show you that it is going through and it's going on to the restore piece. It's leveraging the worker right there from a restore in order to have that restore happen. Now, that's it from a demo. The interesting thing here, again, we are looking at this from a very, very channel focused perspective and we're able to do this integration on very, very large servers and very, very large infrastructure or what you all just saw was done on this, which is just an Intel NUC. So you've got options whether or not you want to do this directly on the edge or whether or not you want to do this at a large environment. That's it. I wanted to point out like, you know, you were showing adding the worker, like if customers have thousands of virtual machines that they want to protect and migrate, like, you know, it's as easy as adding, running through that interface to add an extra worker and scaling out. You can scale up, you can add additional like tasks, which will adjust the size of that worker VM. But, you know, it goes from really small infrastructure to really large on our side as well. It's just a template machine that, you know, you can add as many as you need to. You can add them to every, you know, you should probably add one to every cluster that you're managing just so that it can talk directly to the host and, you know, backup data locally through the Veeam Data Fetcher. Perfect. And before we turn it over to Peyton and Josh, don't forget there's a Q&A section down at the bottom. Feel free to fill it up. While they're talking, I'm going to be answering and Cody will be answering as well. And then we'll likely have some time for Q&A at the end of this. So, thank you all. So, thank you, Matt and Cody. Hi, everyone. Peyton Scanlon. I am the CER at Ingram Micro for Scale Computing. I want to start off by saying when it comes to purchasing through Ingram Micro, it's not about just placing an order. It's about getting a true partnership that adds value at every step. So, I will jump into some of these key advantages that we deliver. So, the first one we have is leverage Ingram Micro Advantage. So, with Advantage, you gain access to a powerful platform that simplifies and accelerates the way you do business with Ingram Micro. We have expert support and enablement. Our dedicated team provides the expertise and enablement sources you need to drive growth and close more deals. Flexible financing. We offer a wide range of financing options that make it easier for you and your customers to invest and scale confidently. Streamlined procurement and logistics leverage. So, Ingram Micro takes the complexity out of procurement and logistics, helping you save time and deliver faster. Partner-only incentives and rebates. You'll unlock exclusive partner programs, incentives, and rebates designed to maximize your profitability. Vendor-dedicated Ingram Micro specialists. So, Josh is a dedicated rep for Veeam, and like I mentioned before, I am that dedicated rep for Scale Computing. We will work alongside you to ensure you have the right support and insights for every opportunity. Government contracts. We make it simple to navigate government contracts, so you can pursue and win more of that public sector business. Marketing enablement tools. Ingram Micro provides marketing tools and campaigns that help you stand out, capture demand, and also grow your pipeline. And then that last one, that four-hour SLAs. And with our platform optimization team, you benefit from a four-hour SLA, ensuring your critical needs are resolved very quickly. So, when it comes to purchasing through Ingram Micro, you're not just gaining a distributor, you're gaining a partner committed to helping you win, grow, and deliver for your customers. So, that's basically a quick little run-through of the Ingram Micro side and the advantages we offer. So, I will pass it on over to Josh now. Cool. Thanks, Peyton. Yeah, I'm Josh Lonechek, customer experience representative on the Veeam team here specifically. So, a lot of you have probably spoken to me before, but I want to speak a little bit about the specific Veeam advantages you can get through purchasing with Ingram Micro. So, one of the biggest and most exciting ones is our IAM promoter program. So, anybody who is currently on the registered medallion level with Veeam, we want to get you to silver and get you better pricing on everything, whether it be a regular quote, deal reg, renewals, you name it. So, we have a way to essentially go around the usual requirements Veeam has for $25,000 net sales to them, as well as a couple of other things. So, we can essentially fast-track that, get you better pricing, and get you on a go-to-market plan with Veeam scale, whatever it might be. And to go along with that, we can also help you with deal registration, especially with these exciting promos for Veeam Data Cloud and whatnot. We'll register it for you. We'll go in the portal, we'll get the information set up and submit it for you, and then we'll get you that registration and new quote and good pricing as soon as we can. And of course, we do want to help you go to market, whether it be with Veeam, whether it be the scale, and hopefully with both of them. So, whether it is through trainings, whether it be enablement, whatever it is, we want to help out with that, and we will help out with that. And of course, if we want to take it another step further, we do have MDF funds available on a proposal-based system. So, whatever it is you want to do, we want to help you do it. And of course, if you want to take it even further, to help you out with the Veeam side of things, we do have a training team here that can help get you access to the VMCE and get you up to, whether it be silver, gold, platinum, we want to make sure you're educated and ready to go with the Veeam side of things. And lastly here, we do have incredible business intelligence, because Ingram has such a wide variety of products we sell. If you want to have help with account mapping or setting up targeted campaigns, we can help with that and, again, help you bolster that go-to-market plan. So, lastly here, just a couple contacts. So, a lot of you have probably received an invite from me or Peyton. So, obviously, feel free to reach out to us with anything specifically to either vendor line. But we do have some team inboxes here if you want to kind of talk to somebody else or if we're not available. So, I've got the Veeam and Scale aliases here. I also want to mention my friend Luis over at the Canada side of Ingram. So, if you're on the Canada side, feel free to reach out to him. He's awesome. So, with that being said, I'll hand it over back to Allie and we can close things out. All right. Thank you, Josh, Peyton, Cody, Matt. If you have any questions, please feel free to drop them in the chat and we will answer them right now. Yeah. So, I kind of wanted to answer one of the questions that came up. Somebody asked, you know, they're looking at a Veeamware alternative and asked if Veeam had a recommendation. And my answer is going to be, you know, from a Veeam perspective, we want to enable a customer regardless of wherever they want to move to. Obviously, we have integrations, you know, native host-based integrations with a handful of different alliance partners. People that are looking for that kind of solution, I would stay in that space. And that list is, you know, fairly large and we keep growing it, including, you know, why we're here today for, like, you know, adding scale support. But it's really going to depend on, like, what are your, what platforms you're comfortable with, you know, and what the learning curve is for a platform for you. If you're heavily into Microsoft, maybe Hyper-V is a decent choice for you because it's, you know, it's in the same ecosystem. But I would say that, like, you know, from a, from a, if you're afraid of Linux, scale is not a problem because, like, I, you know, I don't feel like I used any Linux skills that I have to get it up and running and get it deployed and start working on it. Like, it was, you know, it was really turnkey. Like, you run through the install, it looks, you know, more or less like, you know, it asks the same kind of questions when you deploy ESXi and, you know, away you go. So, but, you know, the one, the right choice for anybody is going to depend on what kind of in-house or external support you can get and, you know, what makes sense for you. So. Thank you, Cody. That's a great answer and far less biased than the one I would have given. But I can tell you this, from a scale perspective, we always want what's best for our customers and our partners, unlike our friends that start with a B. Somebody else asked about file level recovery and application recovery. So, I don't think we looked at it, but, you know, under that restore wizard that Matt ran through, like, you know, there was an option for perform file level recovery. If it's a Windows VM, you can click Windows. If it's anything else, including Windows, you can run other OS. You know, it's the exact same, you know, we mount the backup. We understand the, you know, how to read a virtual disk that we've backed up. We mount the file system and give you the same wizard. It looks exactly the same as any other platform. So, including, you know, physical servers, virtual machines, whatever, it's the same recovery wizard. There was a question about VSS and, you know, and that kind of ties into that application item recovery. We are looking at adding Veeam native VSS today. I think we do quiescence through the scale integration services, like, you know, the QMU agents that are running on that machine to trigger in-guest snapshots. In-guest quiescence when you take a snapshot, and then the application recovery. Once you start a Windows FLR, you can find the, you know, if it's Active Directory, you find the NTDS database. If it's, you know, if it's Oracle, nobody runs Oracle on Windows, but I see it now, but like, it's not common. But, you know, if it's Microsoft SQL, you find the MDF and LDF, and you tell it to get started, and it pops up the same Explorer wizard, and you can do the same kind of operations there. We're just not collecting that in-guest data yet that lets it just pop up and lets you right-click and say, this is a domain controller, perform a domain restore. But that stuff will come eventually, so. And if you all are worried about databases specifically, use Veeam's database backup. Yeah, yeah, there's in-guest. For some machines that, if like, let's say you have a, like a SQL always-on availability group cluster, you know, you might look at using the agents, the Veeam agent for Windows to protect those, or like the Veeam enterprise plugin for SQL databases to take native backups. Just, you know, all the tools work. We're not trying to double charge you, and like, once you license a machine, all the options for that machine are available. You can take in-guest backups, you can take native hypervisor backups, you can take database plugin backups, like, it's the same license, so. So, this will, somebody else asked about when it's going to be available. It is, it's going to be part of 12.3. I think we have a version coming out that'll have it built in, but the plugin, I think, should be available soon for partners to download if it's not already out. Yeah, that's what we need to check on. The initial version 13 release, I'm not sure, because that's, version 13, which is the first version that's coming out, it's going to be Linux only, and it's going to be, it's going to have most of the things, but some platform service stuff. I don't know what did make it and what didn't make it yet, so. Yeah, we were told 12.3.3 with a patch and 13.0.1 full release, but. Okay, yeah, so. Don't forget to double check my work. That's what I assumed, as well, that it would come out with the Windows release. The 13.0.1 is when the upgrade path for existing customers to version 13 works, so. But, yeah, I would have to double check, but you can, if you reach out to your Veeam rep, they should be able to help you get the link to that. Somebody else asked about moving from Veeam agents to integrated backups. The source is different. There's no, you would just take, you would start a new backup job that, you know, that uses scale as a source backup and writes a scale backup. The formats are essentially the same, but they're a little bit different. So, yeah, that's, that's what we're doing. We're not moving from a scale backup. The formats are essentially the same, but we don't allow you to, like, write a Windows backup job, you know, Veeam agent for Windows job to a, any, to any other type of platform and vice versa. Like, we don't, we don't continue backup chains that way, so. All right. Any more questions? Looks like there was also a question about the size of the helper VM. I think by default, it's, like, four, if you want, if you want it to be able to process four disks at once, or four tasks at once, it's four cores and, like, eight gigs of RAM or something like that. It's relatively small. You can adjust it up and down, but, you know, if you're running incredibly small edge nodes where performance is already tight, maybe it's something to consider, but they're, they're fairly, they can be scaled up or down depending on, you know, the size of the cluster and how much data there is to protect, so. I think that was all the ones. Nine is six cores and six gigs worth of RAM that was created. Oh, okay. I couldn't remember if it was one to one or one to two. Yeah. All right. Well, if there are no more questions, we will close this out. So, thank you, everyone, for joining. Before we go, just wanted to mention that if you're not already a Scale Computing partner, now is the perfect time with our double down incentive running through the end of Q3. If you have any questions, please feel free to reach out to us at channel at scalecomputing.com. And we look forward to working with you and growing your business with Scale Computing and Veeam. Have a great day, everyone.
