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Vanover, the Rickitron, but I'm on the road and I'm joined today by Madalina in normal circumstances somewhat. We'll see if she can make it through the call. But Madalina, how are you doing today? Yeah. Hello, Rick. And hello, community. Yes. As you said, a little bit, you know, under the weather, I guess, with a sore throat, and it's a little bit difficult to speak. So if I'm going, you know, to cough a little bit, forgive me, I'm going to try to put myself on mute. Hopefully, it's not going to be the case for, you know, for many times, but doing well, extremely busy with the community, a lot of good projects, a lot of good stuff going on. But how are you? I am at home. And I'm going to be at home for a while. But how are you doing? You are again on the road. Tell us about that. Yeah, again, on the road. Actually, I'm doing great. I really am. I had a busy last week with the Veeamon event and the Analyst Summit event. And that's usually two separate things. So the industry analyst and then the Veeamon. And actually, I kind of don't like putting it there. Because when we do a lot of the work for the Analyst Summit, I use a lot of that for the Veeamon 100 Summit, it's just a just a little bit for the audience, the industry analysts want something different than like our top community engagement members. But it's, I'll have to do unique work again. So it's, that's the only bummer that that I'll have. But I will talk a little bit about the Veeamon New York event in the content here. But no, I'm good. I mean, it's starting to get summer. I got a little bit of sun on Monday, we had one of those, we call it Veeam Me Days, which hopefully you, Mandy, did something good, even if it's just rest. But Veeam Me Day, we have four of those a year, one per quarter, where it's basically a company holiday. And if you have never, the viewers, if you have never worked for a truly global company, this is a true gift. Because there's only like January 1 that everybody celebrates. The rest of the year, whatever's a holiday for you is not for someone else. So everything keeps going. So company holidays are where it's at. But yeah, so I'm doing okay. And you know what else is doing okay? The community. All right, it's doing great. I'm looking forward, great content for today. So I would say, let's jump in. All right, now I'm still using the new tool. And I'm on one screen. So please, viewers, please forgive me here. And I think we are, no, you don't want to see my files. That's not that, well, it could be interesting. Well, let's start with our first piece of featured content. And this is, let me see if I get it right. Andrea. Antonio D'Andrea. You got it all right. Last name. Oh, goodness. Sorry, Antonio D'Andrea. You changed your avatar. It threw me off. All right. So Antonio D'Andrea, a legend from Italy. His is our first up piece of featured content, Veeam V13 and the Spectre of NTLM. Now, I have a lot to share here. But what caught your eye on this one, Maddy? So yeah, that was really great from from Antonio. I actually love that, you know, generated AI image. Pretty good one. But yeah, we are looking here at Veeam V13 running in a workgroup on Windows Server 2025. No domain, no DNS, clean setup, but also one where things can really break in unexpected ways. And you know, everything looks fine in here until Veeam One tries to push the analytic service and then just fails, even though the credentials are correct, if you look at it. And yes, you guessed it that right. This isn't a Veeam issue at all. It's the gap between actually the modern authentication and the workgroup setup that hasn't caught up with it. So Veeam is trying to move forward, but the environment falls back to something that no longer works the same way. So that's a very interesting, you know, presentation in here. And I like how thorough Antonio is with it. And this actually kind of forces you, you know, to just rethink the assumptions because you often say, okay, workgroup, there are more secure, there is less risk with it. But in reality, once you remove the AD and the Kerberos from desecration, things are not going to work the way you expect. So I think what Antonio says in here is like, there is a workaround that is simple, and that's the manual install. But I think that the more important here is actually the lesson. The V13 is pushing modern authentication, whether your environment is ready or not. So if you are going with Windows Server 2025, you actually need to think a bit more carefully about, you know, how you design the environment, especially if you're going to stick with a workgroup. But I think this is great, you know, and I'm sure this comes from experience. Otherwise, you wouldn't just know it. So fantastic job in here. But you said you have a lot of opinions, Rick. So what? Yeah, I've, I came into this as well. And so especially with unmanaged agents, as I moved up to the newer versions of Windows, as well as Veeam. And I dropped a domain in my environment. So I used to at least at home, the home lab now in the Veeam lab, I have the domain. So here's the thing is like a lot of times the domain will kind of shield this because Kerberos authentication came in a lot earlier with domain communications. But there's, you know, a nice established practice I have in workgroup. But then some people like to do domains for just the Veeam infrastructure. And by the way, the hat tip to link state with a very thorough list of some of the protocols and cryptography that are being removed as well. But I've been through a lot of this as well. And Antonio, thank you for writing this up. But I noticed something on the generated image. So this is just only I would ever catch this. But right here, this is using the 2017 E. Okay, but then over here, it's using the 2017 to 2023. E. Right. And then nowhere is it using the 2023. This this logo, right? I think generative AI takes a while before it'll pick that up. But only only Rick Vanover is going to notice that. I think how about the one on the shield? It has also one on the shield. How about that one? Which one is that? That looks like just a block, like, and it kind of is taking the same font is what's going on right there. So, yeah. Interesting. Yeah. But I think I think AI still has a lot to catch up with. But it's getting good. It is getting good. And that's a Antonio like that picture so much. He made it his avatar. So there you go. Awesome. Awesome. Thank you. Now there's all the super good information, but a little bit of fun too. Thank you, Antonio. All right, next up. Sean Simpson talking about something we don't talk about that much here, a Veeam Data Cloud and our Salesforce offering. That'll get you a mention on our show. Thank you, Sean. And Maddy, what caught your eye with this one? Yeah, I think this is a great topic. I actually talked recently, like I think this week I had a call with one of the community members and he told me he's interested in VDC for Salesforce. So I think that's good. We're getting there. But yeah, Sean puts that in perspective and he looks at how the risk around Salesforce has changed over time. And he walks us through how, you know, recent attacks aren't really targeting anymore like Salesforce, but everything connected to it, you know, and that means integrations. It means the authorization tokens, the third party apps and so on and so forth. And it gives a few real examples there where, you know, attackers were able to actually get access through those entry points and then move across different systems. So everything becomes so much smarter and we have to be even smarter than them. So the main idea is, you know, the platform is still secure, but then the ecosystem around it has become the real attack surface because I guess it's much easier to do that. Because we always try to protect the platform. Then there are still things around it that maybe are the weak part in the chain. So from there, he shifts into what you can actually do about it, which is where in Data Cloud for Salesforce comes in. And the focus is really on having that separate, clean copy of your data, something you can control, not something that lives inside the same environment that might get compromised. And it's really good article from Sean and makes, you know, makes you think about protection from a different angle, because we tend to assume, as I said, that, you know, the platform, the Salesforce is secure, so that's all good with us. But as I said, it's not happening that way anymore. So once that is compromised, everything else becomes really accessible. So it's not just about securing the access. It's about being ready for when something outside your control goes wrong. And I think this is where backup and recovery and VDC start to play a big role. Stop being the optional part and it becomes part of your core or should become part of your core strategy. So I think this is a really good piece of content. Thank you, Sean, for sharing it with us. Yeah, Sean, one thing I'll add is that the identity element is, you know, Salesforce is absolutely a target. So having this type of approach for the protection of this data is super, super, very much a good idea. That is horrible English, but you know what I'm trying to say. But good to call your name again here, Sean. And for those of you who don't know, check this out. We have Veeam Data Cloud for Salesforce. It's good stuff. All right, next topic. This one I really like from Pete Steven, swapping the scale out backup repository user. Now, this is actually a piece of advice I very much often give to people. But, you know, Peter has actually walked through what is actually needed, because I see a lot of people using the same username and password for everything. And from an identity standpoint, really just taking the same thing we just spoke about with Salesforce, even on-prem, identity attacks, right? It's a lot easier to change the username and password identities than it is to change the storage. And so Pete walks us through that. But what caught your eye on this one, Maddy? Yeah, so you kind of gave already an idea of what he's trying to explain in here in this article. But this is a real challenge that they had, his company, and that's, you know, dealing with permissions across a lot of those scale out repos. And this came up during a VBR server migration, you know, where the local user changed, but all the existing permissions still point to the old server. So he was like, well, with so many repos, you know, there's just no practical way to go and fix that manually. So he's like, instead of clicking through everything, Peter just said, you know what, I'm going to just build a script to just replace the old users with the new ones across all repos in just one go. And I think that's very smart, because when you hit a limitation like that, you know, it's great to just think out of box. And how can I do it? Because there is so much, you know, on your plate. Sometimes, you know, maybe you are understaffed. There is so much to do. So I think thinking out of box and finding a way to automate it is the way to do it. And, you know, I think that's the moment when your scripting is not optional anymore. It's just like what you should do. So I guess for anyone, basically, managing larger environments, they should not rely only on the UI, right? At some point, you really need to go after the automation. Otherwise, you know, even something basic like changing a user, it's going to turn into much more work than it's needed and it should be. And I think that was very smart. As Pete says in there at the end, he put a disclaimer and I like that about it. You know, it's just like this is something he created. This is not, you know, a Beam script. So use it at your own risk. This is what he says. So I like the fact that he put that disclaimer in there. But really great. I really loved it. Yeah, and you can get the script over at his GitHub repo. We pulled that up just a moment ago. Very good stuff. And you know what I like about this, Maddy, is that because the script is in place, it's going to get done consistently. So I feel a lot of click ops. You have some error prone. So this is going to be really good stuff. So thank you, Peter. All right. Vanguard Blog Spotlight. And this one's a little bit different. We can call it Vanguard Wiki Spotlight. One of the newer Vanguards, Lukas KR from Germany. And his company, one of the outputs he does is make this TerraCloud Veeam Data Protection Wiki. This is really incredible. And it's available in English and German. Yeah, totally. I mean, I think it's actually, is it in English and German? I thought because I went to the German one and I translated it. OK, you could have. OK, I just went to the browser and I translated it from there. I didn't even realize. Well, yeah, you could go to another language that way, too. Yeah, yeah. But that's great. Actually, first of all, I want to say welcome to the recap. Welcome to the Vanguard program, because I didn't have the opportunity to say we haven't met yet in person. We can most probably, fingers crossed, meet at Veeam 100 Summit this year. But welcome to the recap. This is the first time, I think, when we are mentioning his name. And maybe we mentioned it previously, if he posted anything, because I think he is Lucas K., if I'm not wrong, in the community hub. This is his username. And I have a feeling we might have mentioned him with some different content before he became a Vanguard. But anyway, this is the first time we are mentioning him in the VBS. It's this Lucas. Lucas K. Kruzberski, I believe, is how we say. Yes. So I think this is a great project, actually. And it is less of a product review in here. It's like a step-by-step guide on how things work. He walks us through how TerraCloud, the company that he works for, builds a Veeam-based backup platform around the central portal, where you actually manage everything from tenants, backups, licensing, and so on and so forth. And for me, it's clear, built for service providers that are managing multiple customers, you know, not just a single environment. And what it does, it's kind of like, from what I understand, I have not read everything. That's a lot of information. But I went through some chapters. It focuses a lot on the operational side. And it's just walking you through the setup, day-to-day management. And it's really practical. And, you know, by the end of it, what is clear in here is like, you know, it's ... make it especially useful if you're already in that ecosystem or you are looking to implement it. So I think it's more for people, you know, it's not just for people that are learning Veeam. It's more for people that are already familiar with Veeam. Because it's a certain level of complexity in there. But I think it's a great project. Yeah, it is fantastic. And, like, the Help Center, the Veeam documentation does really good about explaining how our products work in a standard configuration. But the sections that are outlined in here are really about what is it like when it's managed by a service provider. So that's the big difference. And so, for example, some of these screenshots that some of you may see, for example, well, that looks like the Veeam software appliance, or it looks like the web UI, but mine doesn't say that. Well, that's because this is when it's specifically for this service provider. So it's like a specific set of docs for those that are using the TerraCloud services. So, Lucas, good stuff. If you go to, like, for instance, just scroll down a little bit. And I think it was here. There was a link, protection, TerraCloud.de. No, to the introduction part down there. There is a link. You actually need, you're going to see that you actually need some, no, it's a little bit upper. Just scroll up a little bit. And it's just the first chapter, introduction. First chapter, introduction. Okay, there we go. There you go. And there is a link, production. See that one. You actually need for that, because I tried to access it and all. Well, you probably need to be a subscriber. Yes, exactly. You need the username and you need password and all that. So, yeah, if you're going to try to, you know, log in, I'm not sure. You need to actually create all those credentials. I'm pretty sure that this part here is probably the onboarding that they do. And then from there, you'd follow these steps. So, but nonetheless, great resource. So, thank you, Lucas. That's cool. All right, special department, the VQG Chile. Now, this event will be in Spanish. I did the browser translate to English. I'm going to talk about Salesforce and other Veeam Data Cloud services. This looks good. Yeah, this is a really good session that our VQG leader from Chile, Alvaro, put together. And his guest is going to be our colleague, Celia. Amazing lady from Chile as well. And as you said, this is a really, if you want like a quick practical look at how Veeam Data Cloud is evolving across Microsoft 365, Azure, Salesforce, beyond that, this is for you. This is going to be, as you said, in Spanish. So, it's for anyone that speaks and understands Spanish. It doesn't have to be only for Chile. I don't know if they're going to consider doing anything particular to Chile, but I think it's going to be more like general information. So, I think it's good for anyone that can speak, understand, actually. Spanish, this is going to be next Tuesday, May 26. That's your 9am. I think it's going to be, if I'm not mistaken, at 10am in Chile, if I remember it well. And yeah, I'm super excited for that. I'm going to be there and I'm super excited. We are also working with Alvaro to get ready our first in-person VUG Chile event for August, September, when I'm going to be there for some VOTs. So, pretty exciting. We're going to do some great stuff this year, but you have time to register for this one. And I see something that I need to actually fix in there because the registration button, it's not functional. If you go to that line that is blue there, up, up, I think. This, right, this hidden button. I think it might have, maybe when I translated, it broke it. Oh, okay. Because now it works. Okay. Yeah. I think in native, I think it's okay. Okay. So, I'm going to check it out anyway, just to make sure it works. She may or may not be a perfectionist, everyone. Yes. Yeah. Awesome. Thank you, Alvaro. Thank you, Celia. This looks fantastic. All right. Next up in special department, kind of a special person with a special story that we're going to put in special department. And it's Jeff's incredible Veeamon New York story, which I'll talk a little bit about my point of view. I think this was him coming in. He got a good look at one of the big bridges there across the different boroughs. We were downtown, like we were in Manhattan. It was about as urban as you get in the US. He went over to Brooklyn Heights. He's a little bit of a tourist. I love it. But what's crazy is he had... Okay. So, here he is showing up for the event. We had an expert bar. Oh, my goodness. Who's that guy he's putting on the TV? But there's Rasmus at Lab Wars, but he had to be in Toronto. It's just crazy. But he had to be in Toronto the very next day. And he flew to Buffalo and walked across the border. He did a separate post somewhere about that because the Toronto KCD days were the next day. And so he actually left Veeamon and flew to Buffalo, walked across the border, and then rented a car and drove to Toronto. He just had... The time was so specific. I can't believe he did that. He wrote a story about that somewhere. It looks like he had a lot of fun in New York at Veeamon. So, that's the most important. And I really appreciate him for putting together, taking the time to share his experience. It's great. We have so much technical content and that's the purpose of the community hub. But I love also this... I've been to that event and I had fun and I've seen the community and it was great. And I learned that. And sharing a little bit of personal stuff, I really like that as well. It's just... Softer side of life. Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. And then he gives us a little bit of the vibe from New York, Veeamon. So, I think that's great. But talking about that, Rick, why don't you tell us how it was for you? And is there any relevant, exciting news that you took away from Veeamon New York? Well, I would recommend everyone go watch at least the keynote that we did for New York. Okay. Because that really tells the story of Data and AI Trust, of where we're going as a company. And it's super relevant now. And there's also still time to register for London on 3rd June, as well as Sydney. In July, as well as Veeamon Tours around the world, which those are going to be... They're starting very soon. June, you know, some of them go into November, right? You have to zoom the world a little bit for you. But what I can tell you is this was very much a move to tell a broad story, a top level story. That resonates with business leaders. And these are some of the breakouts we had. And this also talks a lot about this message that we're bringing at the keynote of Data and AI Trust and how AI solutions not built on good data are going to be a big problem. So, highly recommend you watch this keynote about this. And then also, this customer convergence where we had two folks from some financial services org talk about it, at least in New York. So, it really... It's kind of ironic coming from me, Maddie, in my 16th year, but it is truly becoming a big and a new company right in front of our eyes, Veeam is. So, this Data and AI Trust story, and the data and AI isn't exactly what you would think. And that's why I encourage everyone to watch the keynote. It's access, it's identity, it's resiliency. Everything you've known about Veeam, just telling a more complete story. So, I don't want to spoil it, but I think we did great at the event. We pulled it off. It's a new format, right? It's a one-day event. That by itself, we had to learn a lot internally. I wish I had some pictures. I'm really bad about taking pictures, Maddie. That probably drives you crazy. Yeah. Luckily, we have a lot of great community members that are taking pictures and are sharing with us. But one thing that you just said about AI, I think AI is such a complex word. Everyone in their corporation, company, they are using AI. And AI, it kind of means, I think, different things for different companies, depending on the industry, on the field that they are. Sometimes I think we just take it AI and we just put a definition that we are... It's in our mind, the general definition. But it really means so many things for so many industries. So, I think you touched a good point with that. Yeah. Yeah. And I think regulations is a big thing that we all have to navigate. We show the first view of the one single platform. That's a big deal. The Veeam Data AI command platform. A safe use of AI, again, building on the quality of the data. And then the resilience, the heart of what we do, right? So, it is a journey. And so, there's a couple of screenshots here of event highlights. But basically, this is really a good time to take a fresh look at Veeam. And here's the thing that doesn't change. What people know about our products, that's not changing. It's just, it's all leading up to this overall outcome of data and AI trust converging. So, that's the whole story. So, I'm excited about it. Do encourage everyone to at least watch the keynote. You know, that's a good story to kind of see. And there's a couple of previews of Veeam Data Platform 13.1 that we sneak in there also. So, good stuff. And then Veeam On Tours around the world. We're just Veeaming on and on and on throughout the world this year. It's going to be awesome. And I think, I can't remember, how many are you going to go to this year? I am going to Veeam On Tours. But we are going to organize, as I said, some VUGs around those Veeam On Tours in the region. Because, you know, if I'm going to be there, why not? Yeah. And it's always good, you know, because we haven't had an in-person VUG in Chile yet. We haven't had in Panama. So, we are kind of trying to, you know, give that a start with those in-person events. So, I think it's going to be good. Carolina, that you met last episode, she's going to be with me as well. So, I think it's going to be super fun. We're going to meet our leaders in there. Because we do have Alvaro in Chile. We do have Pablo. Esteban is going to be there. So, they're going to support us at Veeam On Tours. So, really looking forward to all of that. Because we did grow our community in there. So, that's fantastic. I think the latest one is the last two of the year in November in Geneva and Zurich. So, it's really just, you know, you can use this mechanism here to, you know, focus through and find ones in the region. I mean, there's a lot of them. So, definitely check it out. And Nick, talking about, let me just mention something. Talking about the Veeam On Tours, you're going to be in Munich, right? When is that going to happen? I can't remember, June? Hold on, I'll tell you. Munich one is, I want to say the week after London. Yeah, 10th. There you go. June 10th. So, that's coming very soon. Like, not even a month. So, you're going to be there. And all our German community is going to be there. And we have a Veeam community booth with a lot of goodies on top of that. That is going to be managed by our community members. And on top of that, we're going to have an ice cream cart in there, Veeam community branded. So, that's going to be so fun. And that's going to be in Munich. We also have the same in Italy, not the ice cream cart. But we do have a Veeam community booth. We have swag in there. We also have a fun experience in France, in Paris, at Veeam On Tour in Paris. So, if you are going to go to any of this, you can get your swag. You can get some interactions with our community members. You know, I think in Paris, what we are doing, it's a passport. So, you're going to have to go, you know, that passport. You have to go to each of the booths, get a stamp. And then you're going to participate to like a drawing at the end. And then if you have to register at the community hub, put your details. And then you're going to have the chance to win a Lego with Veeam community. So, how cool is that? So, we're going to work on more experiences throughout this summer with different field marketing teams. And we're going to involve our Veeam community members, like the VUG leaders, the legends, the vanguards. So, that's going to be super cool. I'm very excited about that because I think it's so fun. We didn't have the opportunity to do it in New York. We are not going to do it in London. But we're going to do it at Veeam On Tour. So, awesome. Indeed. Appreciate all the work you and the team do for that, Maddy. So, and they really are grassroots. They're doing it all by themselves. Yeah, no, thank you, Safiya, because she did a lot of that work. So, thank you, Safiya, for that. So, the last piece of featured content. Maddy, you had an idea and it worked. Tell me about this one. So, the story of the Veeam Oxford style debate. It's funny, actually, because I wanted to start, like, before South Africa, I wanted to start an expert corner, which was a similar concept. But then I went to that Women in Technology event where they had the Veeam Oxford style debate, one of the sessions. And I was like, why am I not putting it in this format, only that the community have? So, that one brought a lot of good stuff for me. As I mentioned, that was a really good event with a lot of great topics. So, I implemented this. It's been in my mind for a while, only that I kind of changed format. I kind of, you know, went over ideas. And this is the result of it. So, basically, this is a monthly challenge. We are coming up, you know, with a technical topic that is going to challenge, it's going to give... This one, let's say, it was easy for just the first episode. It's not that difficult. And it's... But I saw that there are some people for, many of them are against, but few are for. So, I like that, you know, people are challenged and they are giving us some amazing, you know, information in there. And they are participating in and, you know, they are challenging others. So, I think this is going to be fantastic. Danilo said that he has some great topics that are very challenging. So, he's going to support me with some challenging topics. So, it's great to see that the whole community, you know, is enjoying it and participating. And one thing. So, one person, once we're going to close this, as I said, it's a monthly-based. We started it, like, a few days ago. It's going to close in June. One of our technologists or someone in product management is going to go over the, you know, the comments, the posts, the answers. And they're going to decide which one was the most insightful perspective from, you know, their point of view. And that person is going to get one badge, which is that one that you just showed, Oxford-style debater. And that person is going to get in the contest that we are going to have in December. But I'm not going to give any details on that. That's going to be a surprise. And there's going to be prizes. So, cool stuff. But I'm challenging you, Rick, as well. I'm challenging you again, for or against? You want me to go now or you want me to type it later? Yeah, just go now. Let's see. All right. So, I'm going to have to go with against, not picking after some of the comments. But I think that immutability is part of it, but it's not the only. The part that I have the most issue with, Maddie, is right there, is only. So, I need, there's a lot to it. So, I think I'm against for that reason. I love this. The only thing I'm going to challenge you, okay? Okay. What if we did two badges, the best for and the best against? Okay, cool. I like that. Because I kind of think we might get stuck sometimes. Okay. Yeah, I like that. Okay, we'll do that. Also, I like it. All right. So, I'm against because I think it's the only is the killer. Like, sometimes it comes down to just how things are worded, you know? It's like, it kind of self-selects sometimes. So, I love this. I've got a few ideas for this as well. This is great. Yeah, you should definitely tell me your ideas because we can use it. I think the more challenging it is, you know, the more people are going to try and, you know, give some really good answers. So, I think, yeah, this is going to be a collaboration project. And I'm looking forward to it. And I don't know how to turn off the screen share. The little widget has gone away. I am having trouble again with this, friends. I'm so sorry. We'll just have to leave it this way. I don't know how to stop it. It's like the little widgets went away. They're gone. I don't understand. Okay. It's not too bad. I think this is a good image. I like it, you know, double. Well, how about that? There we go. There you go. I'm almost professional with this. We self-capture this, friends. So, we do our best. We try. Yeah. All right, Maddie. So, good stuff. Normal circumstances next week for me. Awesome. Same for me. But the week after, I'm going to be on vacation. So, I think you're going to just need a new partner. Might just be in a post. Might be a post. Or it's actually easy if I did it myself. Just one person record. So, we'll figure it out. But 2.63 will be you and me. 2.64, I'll find out the night before. So, we'll see. All right. Well, hey, Maddie. Thanks so much for curating all the content this week. Sure. My pleasure. It's always great. All right. Have a great weekend, everyone. We will see you next week on 2.63.
