Mike Matchett of Small World Big Data asks Vengopal Pai from Nutanix about how people are adopting the cloud and the different approaches they are taking. Pai explains that customers are focusing on the location of their applications rather than the infrastructure itself. For those running applications in their data centers, the journey to the public cloud is a multi-year process. Nutanix helps customers modernize their infrastructure by providing a cloud-like architecture within the data center, enabling the creation of private clouds. Hosted private clouds are another option where customers can own the applications while avoiding the need to own the data center footprint. Alternatively, customers can choose SaaS applications for a fully delivered service. Pi emphasizes the flexibility provided by Nutanix, allowing customers to move applications to the public cloud and refactor them at their own pace while reducing cloud commitments. The conversation also differentiates between cloud-native applications running on Kubernetes-like infrastructure and cloud services like Lambda and BigQuery. Nutanix aims to provide a single control plane that abstracts silos, allowing for the movement of VMs and containers. Mark discusses the evolution from a "cloud strategy" to a "cloud smart strategy," where organizations can strategically place their applications where they are needed. Nutanix assists organizations in modernizing their infrastructure with hyperconverged infrastructure (HCI) and adding layers of automation and self-service to create a private cloud. They also support hosted private clouds with various service providers and offer the option of lift and shift to their Nutanix Cloud clusters or EC2 on AWS and Azure. While Nutanix focuses on these areas, they recognize the existence of SaaS and cloud services as separate options for organizations to pursue.